Everyone read the article:
“Donald Trump Tells Pro-Israel Crowd He Can’t Be Bought, Gets Booed”
One wonders if pro-Israel militants will turn to unconventional methods to try to remove Donald Trump from the presidential race — and to clear the way for Marco Rubio.
He’s giving the people what they want and other than his “I love Israel” rant and his funny hair, he’s the most exciting candidate of the pack. I listened to his whole speech. He’s Rambo in a business suit.
Thanks Taxi. I watched the entire video.What Trump is doing is pretending he’s not asking for a contribution, but at the same time he is hoping that the RJC (Sheldon Adelson) crew won’t contribute against his campaign. He is definitely in Israel’s corner as he mentions Netanyahu over and over.
People in the US have hope that Trump is some sort of ‘Patriot’ underneath it all, buttressed by his trademarked ‘make America great again’, but here he proves he a businessman willing to win at whatever costs.
And note that he says he’s contributed one hundred thousand to Hatzolah in nyc last year. Hatzolah is a ‘Jews only’ emergency medical organization that uses a separate system of ambulances to make sure the welfare of Jews is given a different status to the rest of the city inhabitants (just imagine the outrage that people in the US would have it there where whites only, blacks only, Muslims only ambulances). It’s sounds like John Edwards ‘Two Americas’ theme or some sort of neo feudalism, and here’s Trump saying he’s going to make America great again!
I am highly suspicious of Trump too, Chu.
It’s so very, very depressing to gaze at the line-up of the main contenders to the 2016 presidency, both sides of the aisle.
Every single one of them has the the right amount of corruption and ignorance in them that would destroy our country.
I see a very bleak future for us, politically speaking. The next presidency will be worse than George W. Bush’s.
Bleak for sure. The American empire is collapsing and all of the one percent Americans are gathering the wealth for their friends and families. All the people that believe Trump is gonna save this country are smoking too much dope I’d say. It’s natural for people to want to hear that there’s a silver lining here, and Trump does that the best out of the candidates, although it’s not going to turn out that way.
Him and Hillary as the leading candidates proves that we have no sound leaders that can rise to top because the system that created it, from political class to the media oligarchs, is thoroughly poisoned with greed. Obama’s message of hope also resonated with the electorate, but it turned out false as he himself didn’t change anything after the 2007-09 financial collapse.
I “hope” beyond all hope that the in the 2020 campign the word “hope” is never used, outlawed even, by at least one side. Sub “rational” instead.
Someone either here or at MW posted an interview with Rep. Tulsi Gabbard on Syria. Perfect example of a ratiinal/factual ideal. I tweeted her begging her to run for President. We’ll see if she listens… ;))
The mere mention of Tulsi Gabbard cheers me up. But I can’t see how someone like her can get past that forest full of bastards we call DC. She would have to spend a few years building shields and forging many swords before making a dash past the ziocon dragons on Capitol Hill.
Tulsi Gabbard is presently ‘perhaps’ a glimmer of hope for the future. The excellent video you refer to you may have watched here at Plato’s:
Her mug is probably rising to the top of the AIPAC hit list. AIPAC wants to control the chips on the table, like Marco Rubio, and having US reps who have a moral code besides what the AIPAC tribalists feeds them is a threat to their existence.
Yup Taxi. Twas here.
In terms of shields (Taxi) and resilience (chu), she’s a two-tour vet who speaks such non-BS. I get the feeling she’s not likely to change her rational filters or opinions. They’ve been hard won.
Question, to me anyway, is whether the earth rotates sufficiently beneath her. Given what you point out in your “Tel Aviv” article, the ground does indeed seem to be moving in her direction. My view for change, probably naive, is based on the Corbyn model where consistency gives voters something to spark to once weariness or facts or both kick in. If pols change views to address some perceived popular wind-du-moment, electability becomes a doorway dance of electoral mush where change becomes impossible.
Her attractiveness is that she seems to be fundamentally (constitutionally/intellectually/spiritually) resistant to that garbage. I’ve believed that before abour others so fingers crossed this time.
Thanks so much for introducing her to us. .
PS. Love Zerohedge. Great system of systems site.
There is much to object to in Donald Trump, but I like the fact that he is a wild card — and that he is hated so intensely by the neocons. The neocons have a superb radar for detecting threats to their agenda and their interests — they are probably reading him correctly. Which means that Trump, despite his lavish (and not necessarily sincere) flattery of Israel, may be a disruptive influence on the Israel lobby.
That remark that Trump made about Marco Rubio’s subservience to Sheldon Adelson — wow — who else could get away with saying it? He knows the score about what is really going on with regard to the operations of the Israel lobby in the United States. And in any conflict between American and Israeli interests, it is likely that he will side with American interests.
Dismissing Trump as stupid is stupid — he looks like a sharp operator to me — someone capable of quite complex political calculations. The mainstream media have consistently underestimated him. They fail to appreciate the level of rage that is building up in America against the entrenched and thoroughly corrupt political establishment — including both the Republican and Democratic Parties — and themselves.
There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary Clinton is much more a neocon warmonger than Trump. She epitomizes the American politician who is totally dependent on big money from special interests. They say jump, she says how high. Haim Saban exerts as much control over Hillary Clinton as Norman Braman, Paul Singer and Sheldon Adelson exert over Marco Rubio.
I hear what you’re saying, Sean – but it just depresses me even more.
When someone crass and corpo like Donald Trump is the so-called ‘best’ we’ve got – I mean… weep with me weep and you’ll understand.
He’s not a “negotiator”, he’s a salesman. A salesman may very well sell us all down the river.
What we desperately need is a statesman. A leader.
I hear you — the current American political scene is extremely depressing — and Donald Trump doesn’t come close to being a real statesman or leader.
But the rest of the field in the presidential race bores me to tears — I like the fact that Trump is annoying and outraging so many tiresome blowhards and getting away with it — so far.
“He is definitely in Israel’s corner as he mentions Netanyahu over and over.” (Chu)
Understandable, he wasn’t speaking in front of St Patrick’s Society. He’s goes on as a pedlar although he says he’s a great negotiator.. Either way, he evidently succeeded. . .
Walid, and Trump says he not a politician…
At any rate, he’s unpredictable, compared to Hillary who is bought and paid for. Maybe Yahu will damage Trump’s ego if he’s elected president and continues to build illegal god-damn settlements. Then Trump can blow a gasket and we can see where it goes with Israel/Palestine.
Likely not though. It will probably play out like the Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel. Everyone saw some hope for change in the special relationship and there was nil with Chuck.
Trump is a snake-oil salesman, I don’t have faith in him or any other current candidate in either party, Chu. I still haven’t gotten over the disappointment that was Obama., Hagel is a good example.
Smart observation, Chu. Re: December 4, 2015 at 4:43 pm
— Latest GOP National Poll (CNN)
You need to look at a basket of polls.
The best site for that is realclearpolitics.com. That is the go-to site for all broadcast and seasoned political operatives from the most right-wing station to the most left-wing blog. As the General kicks in, they sometimes include the questions and outliers. Rasmussen polls in the 2008 /2012 elections proven to be less reliable than most.
Click on the POLLS tab. Bookmark it. Gives you the temp of the country at any given point.
RealClearPolitics: Latest Polls
I will be visiting it often.
Check out the cartoons of the week on realclearpolitics this week. Some of them are very clever.
Phil Weiss’s take on Trump:
“You don’t think money in politics is corrupting? I do. A few weeks back Trump said that Marco Rubio would become the “perfect little puppet” of Sheldon Adelson if Adelson supports him, and it was a true statement. Rubio won’t be out-Israel’ed by anyone, as he showed yesterday in denouncing Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions in his speech, and saying Jerusalem will always be Israel’s capital, and he’ll shred the Iran deal. Trump to his credit did not make those promises. In fact, he got booed for refusing to say that Jerusalem must remain undivided. Though he loves Netanyahu, who can doubt that’s his real sentiment. What’s the source of his independence? Because he’s not looking for money, he’s not bought and paid for by the Israel lobby, as Tom Friedman once wrote about the Congress.”
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